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Here is my last post from the topic "UFOs":

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I don't know if any of you are familiar with the Foo Fighters (not the band) developed by the NAZIs during the start of that regime in Germany, back around 1930. The result of the development was a saucer shaped flying vehicle that hovered in some film footage that has survived since that time. Since that film, there have been no further evidences of how much further those vehicles were developed.

I don't have time to find a quality site that describes these machines in depth but, here is a site I found during a quick search:

http://www.gpgwebdesign.com.au/germans.htm

My guess is that there are physical UFOs doing the airwaves these days and that there are extradimensional ones as well. Whether they are "demonic" or just "playing" remains to be seen. Not that I want to find out, first hand!

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PS, the foo fighter evolution is something to look further into. There were reports that the Natzis worked themselves into South America and further south after the war to continue its development among other things.

carl

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Originally posted by Sting1983:
"Attractive Indian Girls" you say? Again, the mathematics allow for them to exist but they have not been observed as of yet...

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Well then, you haven't met my friend the Hindi princess!!!YEEEEEEOW

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Originally posted by MysticSandKnight:

But you know what the really sad part is? PEOPLE ACCTUALLY BELIEVED IT! Camel Out.

Camel of the Night

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Actually, the sad thing is that someone was daft enough to want to fool people... just for some attention... because they don't have the imagination to get attention any other way than sucking people in.

What what I'm proposing is that most of the UFOs seen by thousands of Mexicans at once and those other sightings that can not be refuted because they were seen by masses of people are vehicles designed by humans... that are under wraps for an undisclosed reason. They are the evolved form of the Foo Fighter by my estimation and have not come from planet Zenon.

The ones that have "traveled" here are interdimensional, using the super string to get here. They show up in the morphic field of anyone sensitive enough to detect them.

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Originally posted by FZ:
You also show a lack of understanding about super string theory....

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Originally posted by FZ:
I wouldn't presume to be too eloquent in this field, . A trip to Micho Kaku's web site would be very illuminating in that region.... This refers to M-theory, which is the latest development to string theory... Of course, little evidence as of yet, but experiments are being done, especially with Bose-Einstein Condensates... Latest images from telescope of polarised patterns in the early universe also appear to support the theory, or so I hear...
But this is off topic. I say the evidence suggesting interdimensional visitations is tenuous at best, and the physics is very dodgy and flooded with assumptions. I don't think we have enough real suggestions that UFOs are in any way generated by intelligent entities (I mean, what's the point? Why visit here?) and we have a real lack of objective scientific evidence.
On the scales of scientific legitimacy, alien saucers etc score lowly in theoretical foundation, and only mediocrely in supporting evidence. Conclusion? May be possible, but there are far more likely alternatives....

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Thanks fz, I'll check out Micho Kaku's site.

What do you think about the possibility of Tesla technology being used as a form of propolsion in certain crafts?

On the other hand, if you are talking of an ion propulsion system, with electrically accelerate ion streams as propellant, they are the favourite of NASA right now. It is planned that they will replace conventional rockets in future probes and spacecraft. An earth based version? Maybe. The us military are still conduction experiments on powering small unmanned drones with this technology. It's early days, but the fundamentals are sound... Maybe some of the UFO's were drones testing out this sort of drive?

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Originally posted by FZ:Maybe some of the UFO's were drones testing out this sort of drive?

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Yes, maybe. I wonder though, because footage of the Mexican incident and others that took place over cities, (viewed by thousands if not millions), shows a craft that can simply hover, not in any motion... no drive... stopping and changing direction like a humming bird... without wings or apparent propolsion. Although there was some footage of the same type of crafts that showed an emination of sorts... thermal perhaps, under the craft... it showed a pink hue perhaps due an enhancement from thermal filters.

Tesla was able to extract energy from the abundant static electricity caused by the earth's rotation or something... if I remember... which I don't... but... if this is the case... would that energy be adaptable to propolsion. Tesla was in the Nazi occupied territories during the development of the Foo Fighter and I wonder if his research was hijacked and coveted by that group.

Since the end of the war, project "paperclip" saw many of the same researchers brought into the American fold of rocket science and exploration and I wonder if what you say is true and this technology has made its way, covertly, into the military or paramilitary... along with some of the same, original, ideals of the reicht.

The ion drive, as far as I remember, relies on a sail to catch ions and push the cart through space... properly putting the ions before the cart. There was no evidence of sails on the crafts over Mexico City or in the other mass sightings documented by seemingly amature video types. Any suggestions are welcome along this line!

PS, thanks to fz for the look at the resources on this!

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Tesla was able to extract energy from the abundant static electricity caused by the earth's rotation or something... if I remember..

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The ion drive, as far as I remember, relies on a sail to catch ions and push the cart through space... properly putting the ions before the cart. There was no evidence of sails on the crafts over Mexico City or in the other mass sightings documented by seemingly amature video types.

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But I think these UFO's are real.

We'd have to be foolish to believe we were the only ones in the universe as they say in Contact, "Don't you think that'd be an awful waste of space?"

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You're confusing it with solar sail technology, which is a possible future tech for travel in the solar system. The ion drive uses a small amount of massive propellant, which is vaporised, given a charge by bombarding it with an electron gun, and propelled out the back for thrust with a mini-particle accelerator. The advantages are that it is extremely efficient, needs less fuel, very safe etc. This should theoretically be easy to implement in atmospheric craft, as a sort of electromagnetic ramjet can be possible. But its's got some problems, like the current sensitivity of the accelerator arry (basically a net of very fine wires) and lack of power (at the moment).

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Doesn't the solar sail also function by utilizing "photon pressure"?

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Doesn't the solar sail also function by utilizing "photon pressure"?

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Yes, now that you're jogging my memory, the incredible 3D graphic I saw was of a sail that caught photons and propelled a craft as far as photons go, perhaps to the next source. This would be a bit like real sailing with terrestrial winds only requiring a knowledge and accumulated intuition of solar, photon propolsion. (Had to throw in the intuition bit for ya fz!!!)

The difference between wind and photons is that when you're using wind to sail, one creates one's own wind which must be added to the equasion of the wind speed... thus a 25 knot wind will move you 25 knots plus the added 6 - 10 percent of those knots created by one's own movement. Thus... again... we move faster than the wind... when windsurfing. I'd like to see a photon sail do that with light... ha ha ha.

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About 40 yrs ago, about 200 scientists got together and pondered about it, did some mathimatical equations, used common sence and deduction to come up with a possible 250,000,000 habitated and habitable planets in our galaxy alone. That is f***** up

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Originally posted by FZ:
It's too damn improbable for there not to be... (life throughout most of the universe)

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I say... DOI!!!

And whether or not these life forms have evolved enough to have mastered interdimensional or intergalactic travel is questionable... since there would really be... as Hypatia's humourous suggestion suggests... not much point to it... other than the search for the "unknown".