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Originally posted by Michael F. Dmitriyev:
To say the least five participants of the forum (me, morp,vlamir, elasticy2, carl) by each its way cames to idea of the energy construction of universe. The ideas differ in a parts, but reconverge in one: vacuum this not "nothing" , this energy ambience with wholly determined characteristics. About these characteristics and resulting of them conclusions I offer to speak your mind here. For this necessary to use certain name of this energy essence. I think possible to comply with vlamir's offer from his topic "Politron 1" and name its "ergoline". So, what is ergoline?

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Originally posted by vlamir:
At age of 19 years he for the first time had felt the fit of epilepsy, disease, which pursued his the whole life. How the biographers confirm, after one of the nervous fits Nostradamus, for the first time, had felt propensity to predictions. The most exact and known revelations were made by him after most strong fits.
Here is, how in literature is described first fit of disease of Nostradamus:

Analyze facts. During fits of epilepsy a brain of sick continues intensively to work. Ones groups of receptive centers feel strong inhibition and disconnect a consciousness from closer flows of information and noise. Other groups of receptive centers move over to the mode of anomalous sensitivity and begin to load into the subconsciousness such information, about which we, simple mortals, not even guess.
The Physicians confirm that that are hallucinations.
But so this indeed?

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Originally posted by Hardcoremembranterminator:
HeumpjeСюдя on all about it could tell only itself Nostradamus. His(its) biographer knew only his(its) biography no more. Настрадамус in words could transfer it(him) those sensations that it(he) tested at epilepsy. But you see told it is possible to retell on another!

Do not judge strictly for my bad English.
Best regard from Moscow, Andrey U. Akimov

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I'm not judging you on your english but your last post is unreadable to me. It contains russian... The same goes for vlamir.

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Originally posted by Michael F. Dmitriyev:
..... Closer to real image information in the manner of scenes, photography for instance. Else closer three-dementional colour photography (the holography). And finally already available by means of computer virtual real image of thing. Here possible get into its internal construction and consider any part under any increase. Naturally that volume to information in the last case on several orders more than in the first (the verbal description). In other words than more information is embedded in making the image of thing so it to realities closer. Most closer to real thing is the model in the manner of its true copy.....

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Dear M.F.
I see you are single, who well has understood my idea in Polytron I.
When I read your Topic 'From what are made particles' me much has liked your drawing in flesh http://www.mnet.uz/dmf/1.htm
Regrettably, I does not be able to do such animation for polytronic model of hydrogen atom, but something I was able to image. In the figure, axial polytrons (m=16) are shown by the blue color, radial polytrons (m=4) are dyed in the red color.

By means of this model it is possible graphically to explain the Compton's effect.
For continuing the subject 'What is ergoline?' I have prepared information with mathematical calculation:
http://www.sibnet.ru/~polytron/What_is_ergoline.htm
After discussing this part of problem we will be able to go over to consideration of other energy features of ergoline.
Best regards

There are three objectivities in our World:

In the left drawing a photon falls into axial polytron (m=16) and forces its to change a frequency, amplitude and polarization of own fluctuations. In the right drawing excited polytron (m=4) throw out a surplus energy, but with other frequency, other amplitude, other polarization and in others directions.
This model well explains an interaction between photons and polytrons, but it does not explain a mechanism of this interaction. For the clarification of this mechanism we must address to centripetal acceleration of ergoline.
Formula of centripetal acceleration is very simple:

Polytrons possess seven types of energy. One type of energy is defined by the value of speed of light in the vacuum and is general for radial and axial polytrons.
Each of polytrons possesses also three types of resonance energy.
Resonance energies of radial polytron:
1) Energy of tangential fluctuations

(7-1)

2) Energy of radial fluctuations

(7-2)

3) Energy of pulsations of radial dynamic layer

(7-3)

Resonance energies of axial polytron:
1) Axial component of energy

(7-4)

2) Radial component of energy

(7-5)

3) Energy of pulsations of axial dynamic layer

(7-6)

Tangential energy of radial polytron it is possible to write through dynamic area of this polytron.
Dynamic area of radial polytron:

(7-7)

Deciding equations (7-1) and (7-7) for mass of electron at frequency order m=2 and amplitude order of ionized hydrogen atom n_r=n_e=0.0528466 will give:

(7-8)

Dimensionality of mass in this equation is a square of time.
Quantum with the energy 13.6eV shows the mass M_e = 9.10938188_*10^-31 |s²|, i.e. radiation told us about the mass of emitter of energy. But quantum itself, as we know, has no mass.
Formula (7-8) has also information about energy-mass of atom:

(7-9)

The value M_r(m) is possible name as energy equivalent of atom. For the ionized hydrogen atom (m=2, n_e=0.0528466) energy equivalent is M_r(m)=1861.733, i.e. it approximately is a number of masses of electrons, being kept in mass of hydrogen atom. Ratio of mass of hydrogen atom to the rest electron mass is M_H/M_e=1837.153.
Formula (7-8) is possible use also for the calculation of so called a defect of mass.

(7-10)

Numeric factor in the formula (7-8) is applied to show the same values of mass, both in kilograms, and at square seconds. Principle value has no value of this factor, but it's intercoupling with frequency and amplitude orders of polytrons. This intercoupling there is need else to realize.
Here we are reached to the two-dimensional parallel world of unmovable time.
Me can to reproach in the formalism, so I wants to remind that notion of mass also is formal.
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There are designations used in formulas:

K = 3.3515 - parameter of geometrical form of emitter of electromagnetic energy in atom

M_e = 9.10938188*10^-31 kg - electron rest mass

c = 299792458 m/s - speed of light in vacuum

Z - serial number of element in The Mendeleyev Table

m - frequency quantum numbers

n_r - amplitude parameter of radial polytron

where G=6.673*10^-11 |m³*kg^-1*s^-2| - Newtonian constant of gravitation.

For description of the field of vectors of centripetal acceleration of polytrons we shall introduce into practice centripetal potential of radial polytron (CPR):

The centripetal potential of radial polytron has central character only in a plane of polytron. Under all remaining characteristics it can be referred to nuclear forces, namely:
1) CPR has no spherical symmetry;
2) CPR has a not electrical nature and appears as an attractive force;
3) Each polytron interacts only at contact to the near located polytrons, therefore CPR is attributed to short-range forces;
4) CPR depends on orientation of polytrons each to other;
5) In a plane of radial polytron the amplitude CPR has the small variable component, which is pulsing synchronously with resonance frequencies of polytron.

All set forth above properties CPR can be assigned also to centripetal potential of axial polytron (CPA), with that difference, that the variable component CPA is distributed in some solid angle of neighboring space.
According to our model, polytrons in atom are connected in knots; therefore we consider as nucleuses of atoms those points of crystal lattice, in which knots of several polytrons are connected.
By such reviewing, the main formative cell of crystal lattice is the cube with two open sides formed by four polytrons. The space configuration of an aggregate centripetal potential of such cell on close distances is similar to a toroid, whereas at long-distance distances it gradually comes nearer to the spherical form.

For this reason, the average centripetal potential of cell at long-distance distances will make approximately 2/3 from value obtained under the formula (8-2). More precise calculation gives value 0.675. In view of this correction the formula for calculation of an aggregate centripetal potential of the unit cell at long-distance distances looks like:

(8-3)

For conversion of the centripetal potential of the unit cell into tensity of gravitational field it is necessary in the formula (8-3) square of speed of light to exchange by the mass of cell:

(8-4)

Such conversion reduces in change of dimensionality of tensity of gravitational field. In our system of standards the tensity of gravitational field will be expressed in terms of linear density, while in the system of standards of the parallel world it will be expressed in inverse units of our acceleration.
In my opinion, both variants yield the same answer: the tensity of gravitational field is a linear density of energy, i.e. it is ergoline.
Besides, the shown technique uncloses path to research of so-called nuclear forces by means of measurements of mechanical tensions of elastic and plastic deformations in filamentary crystals.

|J| (5-3)

Deciding of equations (5-3) and (7-7) through equivalent of tangential energy of radial polytron, denominated by means of its dynamic area

we get approximately expression for calculation of electrical charge of ion:

(9-2)

Value of elementary charge which computable under the formula (9-2) more true value on 0.0025%. With provision of this correction, square of elementary charge for ion of hydrogen atom is calculate under formula:

(9-3)

High accuracy allows us confidently to conduct the qualitative analysis of characteristics and nature of elementary electrical charge:
1) Electrical charge is created by means of transverse resonance component of energy of radial polytrons;
2) At close distances electrical charge has no spherical symmetry;
3) Electrical charge linearly depends on speed of light, so its characteristics must linearly depend on velocities of movement relative to other charges;
4) Electrical charge is bound by inverse dependency with geometry of polytron, so characteristics of elementary electrical charge must sharply change when deforming polytron;
5) Numeric factor 0.475071*10^-60 comprises in itself two world constants, which have no the strict explanation nor within the framework of classical physics, nor within the framework of the quantum theory.

Now let's analyze dimensionality of square of elementary electrical charge in standards of our and parallel worlds.
In standards of our world the square of electrical charge is expressed, as product of force on the mass |N*kg| or as |m*(kg/s)²|. And that, and other are absolute nonsense.
In standards of the parallel world the square of electrical charge is expressed, as product of force on the square of time |N*s²|. It is possible explained, as action of force to the surface of unmovable time, i.e. as a potential energy.

In 2002-th, Michael F. Dmitriyev in pages of Physics Forums had assigned the question: What is charge? Today I can answer this question so:
There is no physical sense in notion of charge, but there is physical sense in square of elementary charge.
Square of elementary charge is density of flow of square amplitude of resonance energy of polytron on surface of sphere of the static diameter Ds.
Sign of charge is defined by the direction of this flow. We consider outgoing flow as a negative charge, incoming flow - as a positive charge.

Regrettably, that except of Michael F. Dmitriyev, nobody from participants of Physics Forums did not take part in discussing of topic: What is ergoline?

In the Parallel World there are written uncomplimentary words about scientists of Our World:
… Theirs trouble is, that people of science made elites, clans, names; they have decided that for they is given right to define the fate of any new opening. This absolutely inadmissible, since only these branches of science are developing, where appear rare geniuses, which able to open slightly small spares of own brain. Considering these transient openings as criterion of truth, these clans deny all that can be not confirmed by already opened laws or postulates. Using own artificially created status, they, like medieval inquisitors, zomb of young people by old paradigms and so doom them to regress”.

V.N.Poljansky

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Originally posted by lifegazer:

You're asking philosophical questions now. It doesn't matter if you are the best physicist in the whole world - knowledge about timely phenomena cannot tell you what yields time... cannot tell you about universal source.
Mathematics mirrors action. The question you ask here, is: What is the actOR?

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I think that between notions time and universal source (actOR) must not be a word "or". THIS is ONE THING.

Formula (M-1) works under small velocities of moving of source of light

(M-1)

In this case in directions =/2 and =3/2 the Doppler's effect is not observed.
When velocity of source of light comparable to speed of light is observed the transversal Doppler's effect, i.e. and in directions =/2 and =3/2

(M-2)

Try to find a relationship between angles and .

(10-1)

It is signifies, if we at moment of time t₀ have remembered certain spot, then at moment of time t=t₀+dt the equation (10-1) will allow we will calculate coordinates of this spot in the space, its amplitude and its curvature. In the formula (10-1) time is shackled in shell of trigonometric functions. This circumstance creates the greater difficulties both for understanding of the physical nature of curvature of space/time, and for mathematical processing the functions.
In drawing below is shown behavior of one spot of quantoide in the time. This is relative amplitude of the spot.

(8-3a)

Potential of centripetal acceleration of moving object has nonlinear decrease when increasing the velocity of moving of object. It signifies; the mass of object also decreases. At the achievement by the object the speed of light v=c its mass disappears, the transversal Doppler’s effect disappears also, and object completely turn into energy.
Originally I have named this energy as ergoline.
I think, Einstein had made unfaithful conclusion, when has taken a nonlinear reduction of velocity of object as an increasing its mass.
Thereby, existence of the parallel world is not a full absurdity. Mathematics speaks, if we moved into parallel world, we shall see our world, as certain energy, which moves under speed of light.