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noahfor
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Uganda
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Posted - 01/27/2003 :  06:35:58  Show Profile Send a private Message
check this notion out: one could create a suit covered with thousands of tiny units that both sense and display images, each unit would have a corresponding unit on the opposite side of the body, the corresponding unit would display the image that its corresponding unit was sense and the other way around, when looking at the front of the suit you would be seeing the image being recieved by the back of the suit, you would be "looking through the suit", thus rendering the wearer quasi-invisible, it wouldn't be perfect but it would be pretty good camoflauge, frgive me if someone has already posted this, it seems like such a simple idea that it must have been thought of before now



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STAii
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Jordan
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Posted - 01/27/2003 :  15:42:06  Show Profile  Send a private Message
I thought about it before, at the begining it looks like a good idea, but if you think more about it, you will see that it is not quite right (Even theoratically), cause each little unit will show the picture taken from another unit, but if the other unit is actually taking the right picture at a certain time, it will maybe not be taking the right picture at another angle.
The unit that is taking the photo, and the unit that is showing the photo and the eye of the observer must be all on a straight line so that the observers feels the suit is transparent.
But if two units (that are connected so that one shows the picture of the other) happen to be on the line of sight of the person, he will see that point like if it was transparent, but you cannot be sure they will be on the line of sight of the observer always.
Think about it a little.
Suppose that a unit (which happens to be at the middle of your chest) is showing the image of a unit (which happens to be at the middle of your back), now if someone is looking at you right from the front, he will think this unit is atcually transparent.
On the other hand if someone is looking from almost your side (say angle 45 between your front and your side), he will not see this unit as transparent, he will feel the image is panned a little, and therefore he will know it is only a trick .

I hope i made it clear.

You've gotta be japaneese !

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noahfor
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Uganda
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Posted - 01/27/2003 :  16:55:24  Show Profile  Send a private Message
I said it wouldn't be perfect. I don't think it would ever make the person transparent, but it would be much better than fatigues, and much more expensive. It would display at least the exat colors of the surrounding if nothing else, and at night I think one would be pretty hard to spot.



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LURCH_001
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Posted - 01/28/2003 :  00:14:34  Show Profile  Send a private Message
The good news is, you're right; such a suit would be very good camouflage. The bad news is, you're right again; someone else has thought of it before now. The U.S. Army (and perhaps others I don't know about) researched the idea using small, octagonal view screens that joined together like the cells in a honeycomb. At the joints, tiny cameras with fiber-optic wires running to the opposite side of the suit. It even worked, to a degree. But light reflected off the view screens, dirt gets in the lenses, and the whole thing is very expensive and also quite hard to maintain.

All in all, the whole thing turned out to be more trouble than it was worth, considering the fact that a soldier in a "Gillie suit" is very nearly invisible, anyway.

Did they have irony in the Bronze Age?

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STAii
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Jordan
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Posted - 01/28/2003 :  09:18:47  Show Profile  Send a private Message
quote:
Originally posted by noahfor:
I said it wouldn't be perfect. I don't think it would ever make the person transparent, but it would be much better than fatigues, and much more expensive. It would display at least the exat colors of the surrounding if nothing else, and at night I think one would be pretty hard to spot.


I apologize.

I once heard about a person that made his home this way, his home was on a beach, and without lot of houses around, so he made the front of the house all to be screens, and the back to be cameras.

When people faces the house, the camouflage was perfect, you wouldn't see the house AT ALL !

Just go like 10o from where you were (measuring the angle from the center of the house), and you will see the trick .

It was really expensive for the guy, i saw that on TV, i don't remmember they mentioned maintaining.


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OH man
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Posted - 02/08/2003 :  00:43:36  Show Profile  Send a private Message  Visit OH man's Homepage  Send OH man an ICQ Message  Send OH man an instant message
quote:
Originally posted by STAii:

You've gotta be japaneese !


Ure exactly right......

Invisible Suite Thingy Just 2 superimposed images on a tv, but still kinda cool!

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OH man
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Posted - 02/08/2003 :  01:58:14  Show Profile  Send a private Message  Visit OH man's Homepage  Send OH man an ICQ Message  Send OH man an instant message
Oh DOH, lol Someone already posted on that hehe....

http://www.physicsforums.com/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=&TOPIC_ID=9466

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