People talk about all of the innocent people that will be killed in another Gulf war, but they fail to mention all of the people that Saddam is killing. Where is the outcry for the people Saddam is killing? Where are the protestors against the Govt of Iraq. The way I see it most peaceniks aren't for peace, they're just against war. And nine times out of ten, they have no other solution.

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I'm all for peace as soon as every ruthless dictator is deposed and every member of Al Qaeda is killed and everyone else that hates America shuts up about it.

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The people that hate the US government can go piss up a rope for all I care. People are free to have what ever emotions they choose.

But there is only one way to deal with the people that hate Americans and want to kill them. It's not rocket science.

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But what can WE do? Bush already said he's the preseident, and he'll do what he wants to.

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In case you haven't heard the news, people are marching in protest. Personally, I want to dance naked in front of the whitehouse with thousands of others and watch Bush choke on another pretzel.

Why didn't they protest Clinton when he invaded Haiti with no UN support?
Why didn't they protest Clinton when he invaded Somalia with no UN support?
Why didn't they protest Clinton when he intervened in Boznia with no UN support?
Why didn't they protest Clinton when he attacked Iraq with over 450 cruise missles with no UN support?
Why didn't they protest Clinton when he sat back while 500,000 people in Rwanda were slaughtered in civil war?
Why didn't they protest Milosevic for commiting genocide?
Why aren't they protesting Saddam for starving his own people and depriving them of medicine?

Because of blind allegience to an ideology or representative of such.

The left is loosing because they refuse to use basic logic and common sense. Utopia is impossible. You have to be less idealistic and more practical if you want to solve the worlds problems. The lefts arguments are sabotaged by their own inconsistancies. It really is very funny.

Electrons are waves or particles or neither, not both.

I'm saying that the left's argument doesn't hold up because either everyone on the left changed their minds since Bush has been in office, or the left is inconsisitant.

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Originally posted by Alias:
I didn't say it was wrong then.

I'm saying that the left's argument doesn't hold up because either everyone on the left changed their minds since Bush has been in office, or the left is inconsisitant.

Why now, but not then? What's different?

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Who is this 'left' anyways? Who are they? Obviously not the media, because they are biased towards ratings, and Republicans can bring in more of those. Let's focus on right now, shall we, and not the past, or else we'll have to ask why Republicans supplied Iraq with the very weapons they used to 'gas their own people'...or why Republicans didn't mind the gassing when it actually happened.

Focus on NOW, come up with a positive proof of your position, not a negative tearing down of the opposing viewpoint.

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Originally posted by Zero:
And, before we forget, let's also think about the fact that the first Gulf War, with the elder Bush as president, was almost universally supported by the same countries that oppose this one. Blaming it on the 'left' doesn't cut it.

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I'd like to see a list of coalition members in the last war and a list of coalition members this time around before I can buy that argument.

Electrons are waves or particles or neither, not both.

the way for peace with muslims is :

1. to stop AMERICAN SUPPORT TO ISRAEL.
2. TO GET ISRAEL OUT OF PALESTINE.

that is the main problem in peace with muslims (i mean peace between ISRAEL , AMERICA and MSULIM world)....
but for any other country in the world their is a complete peace between muslims and that countries

although their is a peace between america and most of muslims countries but i say that there is not a lot of real muslims now

I'm all for that one. But oh, the wailing and gnashing of teeth that would ensue! Uncaring America!

Electrons are waves or particles or neither, not both.

Electrons are waves or particles or neither, not both.

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Originally posted by Alias:
Interesting point. What was the resolution concerning?

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It concerns the illegal occupation of Palestinian lands by Israel...in the minds of Palestinian 'terrorists', and the U.N., every Israeli soldier in the pre-1967 borders of the west bank and gaza strip, is illegally occupying it.

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/b86613e7d92097880525672e007227a7/59210ce6d04aef61852560c3005da209!OpenDocument

Clarification of 242;

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0cyv0