If the unconscious mind is to have an interface with the primitive energies at the edge of reality..quarks... then it must be expressable in a mathematical formula relationship. This primordal equation exists as an energy decay function:

Let "collective unconscious" constant = 144/37 = 3.891891891...

Then the product of all quark energies is the log e base of the collective unconscious constant ...e = natural log = 2.718281828... IN 2.718281828 = 1

IN [ 10 ^ [ 144/37 / (32^2) ]] = 5.2 * 1.6 * .0074007124251 * 189 * .16 * .0047

....or:

IN [ 10^ [ 144/37 / (32^2) ]] = Bottom * Charm * Down * Top * Strange * Up

Leahy's triple logic ( 82944 surface area ) geometrically interfaces reality at this primitive level, using the Hebrew Kabbala " 32 paths of wisdom" as energy to mind conduits; which are continually being energized (squared) as continuous replacements of the decaying transition....e^ (energies).

10^( 82944/37/18/(32^3)) = e ^ ( 5.2 * 1.6 * .0074007124254 * 189 * .16 * .0047)

Note the next level of paths (32^2) which is just energy leveled " up " , that is 32 is the rest state, 32 squared is the energized state , and 32 cubed is the placement of the energized state to reality. The interpretation is that the collective unconscious is the decay product of Natures most primitive energies ..the six quark values:

10 ^ (82944/666/(32^3)) = e ^ ( Bottom*Charm*Down*Top*Strange*Up)

The strange thing about the energy decay equation is how close it is to the fine-structure constant form equation that I sent to prof. Leahy in Feb. 1999:

(10^(82943.9930846/666/32)) / 666 = sqrt 1/a(em) =11.7062377

That is by increasing the "paths" to 3-dimensions ...32 to (32^3)...and eliminating one of the collective unconscious constants (37*18 = 666) the form decays to the product of primitive quark energies...this being discovered 2-2-03.. Since 10^ ((82944/666/(32^3)) is the decay form of of the fine-structure constant, then the fine-structure origins out of the decay form of the products of quark energies:

666 / [ 10 ^ [[ log ( e^ (B*C*D*T*S*U)) ] * (32^2) ]] = sqrt a(em)

D =down = .007400711813
a(em) = 1/137.036000986

J.Iuliano

....from the book by Brian Greene "The Elegant Universe" page 9 which goes on to talk about quarks...

Physicists have recognized a pattern among these particles, displayed in Table l.l. The matter particles neatly fall into three groups, which are often called families. Each family contains two of the quarks, an electron or one of it's cousins, and one of the neutrino species. The corresponding particle types across the three families have identical properties EXCEPT for their masses, which grows larger in each successive family. The upshot is that physicists have now probed the structure of matter to scales of about a billionth of a billionth meter and shown that everything encountered to date--whether it occurs naturally or is produced atificially with giant atom smashers-- consists of some combination of particles from these three families and their anti-matter partners.

A glance at Table l.l will no doubt leave you with an even stronger sense of bewilderment at the discovery of the muon. The arrangement into families at least gives some semblance of order, but innumerable "why's" leap to the fore. Why are there so many fundamental particles, especially when it seems the greater majority of things in the world around us only need electrons and up-quarks and down-quarks? Why are there three families?...Why do the particles have a seemingly random spread of masses? These are strange, seemingly random numbers. Did they occur by chance, by some divine choice, or is there a comprehensible scientific explanation for these fundamental features of our universe?...end quote

The number of masses in multiples of the proton from Greene's Table l.l

U = Up-quark = .0047 ...spin = +2/3
D = Down -quark = .0074 ...spin = -1/3
C = Charm-quark = 1.6...spin = + 2/3
S = Strange-quark =. 16...spin = -1/3
T = Top-quark = 189... spin = + 2/3
B = Bottom quark = 5.2...spin = -1/3

Hurkyl

I'm hardly one to talk though ;)

Raavin

the five most important equations:

# 1....This would be the cosine discovery of the fine-structure constant, for it's pure aesthetics appeal, mathematical poetry or Haiku, and it's association to the Leahy/Hebrew number .....288 sparks of the Sephira Malkuth and...... 82944 prof. Leahy's area triple logic cube:

( 82944 ^ ( 1/Pi )) / 100 = cos 1/a(em) = cos 137.036000986...

...however this equation has a great weakness in the cosine structure, in that there are infinite solutions for cos 137.036000986, being any modular form of Pi is a solution creator ... n* Pi + cos 137.036000986.... and yet the fact of linking this singular accurate form to totally separate derivations was worth further study. Out of this study the Feigenbaum constant was demonstrated.

# 2......Feigenbaum is a function of Pi, again in radian form:

( tan^-1(1 / 82944 / ( 100^Pi ))) + Pi = Feigenbaum constant =4.6692043132

...again one has the 82944 constant as key weight, with Leahy's "thinking NOW, created 100" , "pumped " by Pi.

# 3..... The strange fact of the Cheops connection which led to quark solutions:
Cheops height = ht = 486.256005975 ...used in formula
Cheops base leg = bl 763.81
Churchward/Ramsey (1910)....
http://www.charm.net/~ces/trade/tback.html
height ....= 486.256 English feet
base leg = 763.81 English feet
fine-structure constant = a(em) = 1/137.036000986..
Beta = .37

( .37^2 ) / ( 10 ^ ( 2*ht/bl )) = a(em) = 1/137.036000986...

......this equation eliminates the cosine form. It is pure Egyptian mythology ,reference to 37 being the total number of Egyptian dieties; height and base leg being the Cheops constructs.
Sources for Beta, (37) :
37 Egyptian dieties...
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/h/hex.html
.37 Beta,anamolous exponent for second order phase transitions
http://webphysics.iupui.edu/251Sp97GFApr28.html

#4....This equation connected Cheops to quarks through the fine-structure constant a(em) and defined the holographic equation as part of the master integer Beta (.37).

emev = ((B*S*D/T/C/U)^2)*(10^2) / (82944 ^ ( ht/2/bl )) = .510998902
pmev = ((B*S*D/T/C/U)^2)*(10^4)/2 = 938.271998

electron (emev ) Down quark = D = .007406522765
proton ( pmev ) Down quark = D = .007400067718
ht = 486.256
bl = 763.81

four fundamental forces of Nature...TOE

ELECTRO-MAGNETIC: fine-structure constant...D=.007399040095...

a(em) = 1/137.036000986 = ((.37*T*C*U/B/S/D)^2)/100

STRONG FORCE: nuclear.....14 = a(s)...D = .007399039621...

a(s) = 14 = ((T*C*U/B/S/D)^2) * (e^((Pi+8)/2)) / 100

WEAK FORCE : nuclear...ferming coupling charge = G(w) = .0000116639...

emev / pmev / F / 10 = G(w) = .00001166402885...

GRAVITATIONAL FORCE: = G(n) = pyramidal volumne =6.6739*(10^-11)

(uncharge(one third/two thirds)) * Cheops volumne^uncharged / Gioggi = G(n)
(sqrt (B*S*D / T/C/U)) * ((3/(bl^2)/ht) ^ (1/4)) / (10^7) = G(n)

GRAVITATIONAL FORCE: Cheops constructs only:

[((10^ ( 2*ht/bl )) * 3/(bl^2)/ht / (10^34))] ^ (1/4) = G(n)

....from the book by Brian Greene "The Elegant Universe" page 9 which goes on to talk about quarks...

The number of masses in multiples of the proton from Greene's Table l.l

U = Up-quark = .0047 ...spin = +2/3
D = Down -quark = .0074 ...spin = -1/3
C = Charm-quark = 1.6...spin = + 2/3
S = Strange-quark = .16...spin = -1/3
T = Top-quark = 189... spin = + 2/3
B = Bottom quark = 5.2...spin = -1/3

# 5....The collective unconscious forms through the cosines of fine structure constant; the K forms .36787....;

FEIGENBAUM CONSTANT = 4.669201609...rule of order in chaotic systems
F= 4.6692043132.....tan in radians
100/[(tan F).........................^ (1/Pi)] = 36.7872976 = K

GOLDEN MEAN = 1.618033989...rule of order in living forms systems
Phi = 1.618033989 = (1+sqrt5)/2...COS^-1 in degrees
[COS^-1[((sqrt 5 -1)/4)*1152]........^ (1/Pi) = 36.7872976 = K
1.152 =Egyptian tropical foot

FINE-STRUCTURE CONSTANT = a(em) =amplitude for an electron-photon
exchange, rule of proton-electron
interactions.
a(em) = 1/137.036000986...cos in radians
(cos 1/(a(em))*100.................................= 36.7872976 = K

COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS = 82944 = (288^2)...rule of brain/nervous/
systems/symbolic
Prof. Leahy =(82944, logic cube) and Sephira Malkuth=(288 sparks-intoto)
82944................................... ^ (1/Pi) = 36.7872976 = K

COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS: Egyptian form, Cheops pyramid, Beta=.37
height = 486.256005976 feet = ht
base leg = 763.81 feet = bl...cos in radians
[cos [(10^(2*ht/bl))/(.37^2)]] * 100........= 36.7872976 = K

COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS : Pi form... cos in radians
[[cos[(10^((2/Pi)+(2/Pi))]/(.370000606^2)]*100 = 36.7872976 = K

COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS: Christian(666), Hebrew(288) form
cos in radians...
cos[(10^(287.999975988/37))/(666^2)]........= 36.7872976 = K

NATURES CHARGED MASSES: proton,positive; electron,negative
pmev = proton million electron volts = 938.271998 (NIST 1998)
emev = electron million electron volts = .5109994691 (NIST = .510998902)
[(10*pmev)^[(1/Pi)*(emev^-(1/Pi))]]..........................= 36.7872976 = K

NATURES CHARGED MASSES: and the collective unconscious as the
electrons carrier
pmev = 938.271998
emev = .51100091734
pmev * (emev^2) / 6.66..............................= 36.7872976 = K

J.Iuliano

as far as Hurkyl's comment on complicatedness, I don't see how the equation:
[288^(2/Pi)]/100 = cos 137.036000986... as an expression for fine-structure constant can be any simpler, which is Occam's razor defined and is NOT at all that complicated. The number 288 is refrenced in a four to five thousand year old document , the Hebrew Kabbal, where it is symbolically referenced in their creation mythologies as "288 sparks" released from broken vessels very similar to the actual physical definition of the fine-structure constant which is "the amplitude for an electron to emit or absorb a photon", very close interpretation to "sparks " releasing from the aether (which is analogous to some sort of broken vessel). As far as relating to scientific explanation... that is yet to be understood having more to do with the interface of the mind's Jungian archetypes with physical entities protons, electrons, quarks, etc. The accuracy of 137.036000986 approaches to 10 billionths, Stanford University's experimental fine-structure result in 2001 of 137.0360005 , so explain that... 4000 to 5000 year old document linking to a modern physics number with only Pi as the link leading to 10 billionths accuracy??..strange...even more strange....to get rid of the cosine form just substitute the Cheops pyramid constructs with the collective unconscious constant 37:
Cheops height = 486.256 ft
Cheops base leg = 763.81 ft ...from Churchward/Ramseys 1910 expedition to Egypt:

(.37^2) / [10^ (486.2560047*2/763.81)] = 1/137.036000986

so now you have a very ancient structure which is referenced to the Egyptian god , RA ,(or light) , possibly 10000 years + performing the same function as the Hebrew Kabbalic's 288 sparks from broken vessels, very strange.... In the book by Jerry Lucas "Theomatics" he references in one chapter that Christ (again defined as "the light") is the number 37...so explain that Hurkyl ???....
Some of the following links might be inactive....

COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS CONSTANTS

SEPHIRA MALKUTH: "288 sparks from broken vessels"
10^(288/2/37) = 7796.36013
http://www.inner.org/HEBLETER/tzadik.htm
http://www.thirtysevenbooks.com/Arizal/Pinchas5761.htm
http://www.levity.com/alchemy/luria.html
http://www.koshertorah.com/thk7.html
180/2 = total consciousness
32 =total paths of wisdom

288^2 = 82944
10^(82944/32/37/18) = 7796.36013
DG Leahy
http://dgleahy.com/dgl/p22.html
Carl Munck
http://www.greatdreams.com/gem1.html

PLATONIC CYCLE: 25920 years
10^(25920/37/180) = 7796.36013
http://www.earthmatrix.com/platonic/nineveh.htm
http://www.expresso.co.cr/centaurs/steiner/epochs.html
http://wn.elib/steiner/Lectures/CosHuMet_synopsis.html
http://www.ascension2000.com/fm-ch06.htm

HINDU..KALI-YUGA: 108 time unit
(sqrt(37/108))*2*37*180 = 7796.383777
(sqrt(37/108))*2*37/10 = 10^(ht/bl).....ht = 486.25726, bl = 763.81
http://www.hubcom.com/tantriic/subha.htm
http://philtar.ucsm.ac.uk/encyclopedia/hindu/ascetic/iskcon.html
http://uk.geocities.com/tantraifc/mother_kali_tara.html
http://www.wordman.com/gallery432/432myth.htm

RAY TOMES: harmonics of 34560 and 24
10^(34560/24/370) = 7796.36013
http://www.theosophy.com/theos-talk/tt05743.html
Cycles in the universe and harmonics theory
http://www.theosophy.net/tw-html/tw7812.html
http://homepages.kcbbs.gen.nz/rtomes/conf-1.htm

ISLAM and KUNDALINI (3.5)....... 57*2 Suras in Koran
((7/2)^(1/4)) * 5700 = 7796.369679
http://www.powells.com/subsection/IslamQuran.html
http://www.starryarch.org/GnosticMassNotes.htm

STONEHENGE: diameter = 288 units
10^(288/2/37) = 7796.36013
http://www.celticnz.co.nz/US9.html
http://www.celticnz.co.nz/US14.html
http://www.christiaan.com/stonehenge/info/period_i
http://www.vortexmaps.com/htmla/hengetor.htm

MIRINGA TE KAKARA...(crosshouse:New Zealand)288
http://www.celticnz.co.nz/mnz_pt4.html

AZTEC/MAYAN..sacred Alautun number (long count) 2304=(8^2)*(6^4)
10^[2304*2/37/32] = 7796.36013
http://www.earthmatrix.com/serie56/maya56.htm
http://www.geocities.com/teufel_pi/papers/mayan.pdf
http://www.earthmatrix.com/great/pyramid.htm
http://www.earthmatrix.com/abstract/abs50-59.htm

SUMERIAN..goddess INANNA (252)..HINDU YUGA..108
10^(252-108)/37)) = 7796.36013
http://www.netmastersinc.com/secrets/108_essay.htn
http://www.zenforum.com/ForumE/showthread.php3?threadid=783
http://www.jainworld.com/jainbooks/guideline/111.htm
http://www.omsakthi.org/worship/mantra.html

CHRISTIAN..Book of Revelations...144,(37*18),1260,70,9505
10^(144/37) ..........= 7796.36013
10^((1260/666)+2)..= 7796.36013
10^((70/37)+2).......= 7796.36013
10^((9505/37)-256) = 7796.36013

37*18...chapter 13; verse 18
144......chapter 14; verse 1
1260....chapter 12; verse 6 (42 months)
70.......chapter 17; verse 3
9505...number of hours in one day + one month + one year + one hour

The people who built stonehenge or the pyramids or whatever may have used a completly different system of weights and measures.

What are you trying to say anyway?

quote:

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I don't see how the equation:
[288^(2/Pi)]/100 = cos 137.036000986... as an expression for fine-structure constant can be any simpler, which is Occam's razor defined and is NOT at all that complicated.

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You missed my point; if you're looking for coincidences, your equation simply isn't accurate enough given its complexity.

The inverse fine constant is given by

137.03599976(50) by http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?alphinv

Your equation doesn't even fit into the error bounds for the fine structure constant...

Anyways, looking at the decimals, letting a be the fine structure constant:

cos (1/a) = 0.367871835524

Your formula gives:
288^2/pi / 100 = 0.367872976042

Which yields the value for a:

a = 137.036000907

Whereas the equation:

e^-1 = 0.367879551171

Is nearly as accurate!

And consider that one can get better accuracy than both of these equations by the simple fraction:

12 * 479 / 5⁶ = 0.367872

Computing what the prediction for (1/a) from

cos (1/a) = 12 * 479 / 5⁶

gives

(1/a) = 137.035999937

which is well within the error bounds!

quote:

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The number 288 is refrenced in a four to five thousand year old document

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The number 288 is probably in thousands of ancient documents, and if not, I'm sure I can find references of 2, 3, and 5 which combine to yield 288...

288 = 2⁵ * 3²

Or if I want to still sound mysterious to give some mystical meaning, I could always call 288 "twice a dozen dozen" and give some hogwash to make a dozen dozen sound more mystical.

quote:

---

so explain that... 4000 to 5000 year old document linking to a modern physics number with only Pi as the link leading to 10 billionths accuracy??

---

The explanation is that given the sheer variety of the forms equations can take, you're practically guaranteed to find a "simple" one that can approximate any number to 6-7 decimal places or better. And given the vast amounts of ancient text, you're almost certain to be able to find some mystical explanation for the quantities involved.

Take my approximation...

Apparently, [url=http://www.dionysus.org/x0801.html]479's mystical meaning has already been found[/url] so now all I have to do is come up with some mystical sounding hogwash about the number 12's significance in the bible or something, and then dig through some texts to find some loosely relevant meaning for the numbers 5 and 6 and voila! I have numerological proof!

Hurkyl

quote:
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I don't see how the equation:
[288^(2/Pi)]/100 = cos 137.036000986... as an expression for fine-structure constant can be any simpler, which is Occam's razor defined and is NOT at all that complicated.
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You missed my point; if you're looking for coincidences, your equation simply isn't accurate enough given its complexity...........(wrong....Stanford"s Cesium 2001 experiment for fine-structure yielded 1/137.0360005 which is 99.9999996% of the 288 derived value of 1/137.036000986 inside their error bars..and I don't see how 288 ^(2/Pi) is that complicated of a formula as compared to Feynman's diagrams of Q.E.D. which take up thousands of pages of calculations...J.Iuliano)

The inverse fine constant is given by

137.03599976(50) by http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?alphinv

Your equation doesn't even fit into the error bounds for the fine structure constant...(just showed that it did...J.Iuliano)

Anyways, looking at the decimals, letting a be the fine structure constant:

cos (1/a) = 0.367871835524

Your formula gives:
2882/pi / 100 = 0.367872976042

Which yields the value for a:

a = 137.036000907

Whereas the equation:

e-1 = 0.367879551171
.......(your equation result is wrong...1/e = .367879441171..which translates to:
1/e ~ cos 137.03600799...not in the error bars of any modern version of fine-structure...J.Iuliano)

Is nearly as accurate! .......( not even...not close to the Stanford Cesium experiment ..1/137.0360005, nor Kino****as number 1/137.035999935...(82944^(1/Pi))/100 = cos 137.036000986 which is IN the error bars of the Stanford Cesium experiment..2001...J.Iuliano)

And consider that one can get better accuracy than both of these equations by the simple fraction:

12 * 479 / 56 = 0.367872..(such sloppiness...12*479/56 = 102.6428471..what the hell has that number got to do with anything?? ..J.Iuliano)

Computing what the prediction for (1/a) from

cos (1/a) = 12 * 479 / 56...(wrong...doesn't compute...J.Iuliano)

gives

(1/a) = 137.035999937...(again error,error..J.Iuliano)

which is well within the error bounds!...(doesn't even compute,... if it don't compute ,don't rebuke...J.Iuliano)

quote:
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The number 288 is refrenced in a four to five thousand year old document
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The number 288 is probably in thousands of ancient documents.......(if you can find just 10 of these so-called 1000's please send them..I'm calling your bluff..J.Iuliano)........, and if not, I'm sure I can find references of 2, 3, and 5 which combine to yield 288.......(please send them all I would be interested in them...J.Iuliano)

288 = 25 * 32 (.....tsk, tsk, tsk, sloppy again...25*32 = 800...if this is the way all physics is calculated ......well , it answers a lot of "falling debris" questions....J.Iuliano)

Or if I want to still sound mysterious to give some mystical meaning, I could always call 288 "twice a dozen dozen" and give some hogwash to make a dozen dozen sound more mystical.

quote:
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so explain that... 4000 to 5000 year old document linking to a modern physics number with only Pi as the link leading to 10 billionths accuracy??
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The explanation is that given the sheer variety of the forms equations can take, you're practically guaranteed to find a "simple" one that can approximate any number to 6-7 decimal places or better..( again please demonstrate.. I am calling your bluff on that one...J.Iuliano)..... And given the vast amounts of ancient text, you're almost certain to be able to find some mystical explanation for the quantities involved....(again calling your bluff on that one...put up or shut up....J.Iuliano)

Take my approximation...

Apparently, [url=http://www.dionysus.org/x0801.html]479's mystical meaning has already been found[/url] so now all I have to do is come up with some mystical sounding hogwash about the number 12's significance in the bible or something, and then dig through some texts to find some loosely relevant meaning for the numbers 5 and 6 and voila! I have numerological proof! ........(you are comparing some wack-jobs number... 479... to the Sephira Malkuths 288 sparks?? that is pathetic. I read the 479 thing and I didn't see one reference to ancient documentation ,religious or otherwise concerning the number 479. It was all a figment of his imagination or somebody elses with no clear references to any sources of validity or reference other than their own made up source.....J.Iuliano).

Hurkyl

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The people who built stonehenge or the pyramids or whatever may have used a completly different system of weights and measures.

What are you trying to say anyway?

"May the maths be with you"

I am saying that the metric has been around for longer than accepted thought, probably related to the megalithic yard:

At the following websites Prof. Alexander Thom gives the megalithic yard as 2.72 feet or 32.64 inches. A meter is 39.37 inches. The conversion of the two measuring forms is through the radius of the hydrogen atom (.037 pn) and the fine structure constant (1/137.036000986 = a(em)) as follows:

[10 ^ [((39.37in. - 32.64in.)/.037)-180]] / 6.66 = sqrt 137.0362058

or as:

[[[log ((sqrt 1/a(em)) * 6.66)] + 180] *.037 ] + 32.64in. = 39.3699999988in. (where 1/a(em) = 137.036000986)

180 is of course 1/2 part of the radian equation :180/Pi = radian

Also ...log((sqrt137.036000986 * 6.66) is modulo to the "collective unconscious" constant: 144/37= 3.891891891

J.Iuliano

EARTH MYSTERIES: Alexander Thom
... Thom also undertook the project of accurately surveying and carefully measuring ... His
discovery of what he called the megalithic yard (2.72 feet ...
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... Thom also undertook the project of accurately surveying and carefully measuring ... His
discovery of what he called the "megalithic yard" (2.72 feet ...
www.britannia.com/wonder/thom.html - 17k - Cached - Similar pages megalithicmeasures
... Because Thom tried to pin down the Megalithic yard ... Although he knew that a measure
of around 2.72 feet was the basis of their system, in terms ...
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Brief description
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Southwestern Archaeology - Messages
... Yard" Hi Clive -- In Thom's "Megalithic Sites in Britain" he devotes Ch. 5 to the
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J.Iuliano

Where did these guys from the ancient texts get their ideas? What is an idea? If something occurs to you from within, which has yet to be expressed outwardly, then, it "must" be a by-product or, "figment of," one's imagination. Which is to say, how do we really know anything?

As I understand it, the theory of relativity wasn't reaveled to Einstein except through a dream. What should that tell us? That indeed science does become the by-product of, "mystical experience."

And where would the universe be if it were not for man to come along--only so recently--to stumble across the fact that hey, 1 + 1 = 2 and, that the universe really exists?

What kind of knowing was there before we came along?" It's not like somebody just turned the lights on is it, and that now, for the first time, the universe can be seen (or measured) for what it really is? Well then, it must have been part of "somebody's" unconscious. The only question is, whose? ...

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12 * 479 / 56 = 0.367872..(such sloppiness...12*479/56 = 102.6428471..what the hell has that number got to do with anything?? ..J.Iuliano)

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Try 12 * 479 / 5⁶, or if you prefer carat notation 12 * 579 / 5^6

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(.....tsk, tsk, tsk, sloppy again...25*32 = 800...if this is the way all physics is calculated ......well , it answers a lot of "falling debris" questions....J.Iuliano)

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Again, my text says 2⁵*3² = 288, or in carat notation 2^5*3^2=288

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( again please demonstrate.. I am calling your bluff on that one...J.Iuliano)

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Deal. Give me a number to approximate, and I'll approximate it with an equation no more complicated than what you've put forth.

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(again calling your bluff on that one...put up or shut up....J.Iuliano)

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Seeing how I'm not a historian and don't have a database lookup of ancient texts, I'm gonna have to just say that's what I've read about the subject. I'll refer you to a quote at http://humane.sourceforge.net/published/bible_hoax.html though:

"Like numerology or astrology, the methods in the book are flexible enough to get any result you want, and to allow you to explain away any results that don't seem promising - remember, you can ignore as much of the output as you wish."

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you are comparing some wack-jobs number... 479... to the Sephira Malkuths 288 sparks?? that is pathetic. I read the 479 thing and I didn't see one reference to ancient documentation ,religious or otherwise concerning the number 479. It was all a figment of his imagination or somebody elses with no clear references to any sources of validity or reference other than their own made up source

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Oh, the irony!

Hurkyl

By the way, if you were to take 10 pennys (or coins of equal diameter) and arrange them to form a pyramid (equilateral triangle), you would get four tiers. The first or "base tier" would contain four pennys, the second tier would contain three pennys, the third tier would contain two pennys, and the fourth tier would contain one penny. Perhaps this is what gives rise to the decimal system? (i.e., it can only be done with an equilateral triangle and ten circles of the same diameter).

While it's also interesting that when adding the first three tiers: "4" plus "3" plus "2" -- and hence the number "432" -- you get the base tier (4), plus 3, the second tier (7), plus 2, the third tier (9); in other words, the numbers 4, 7 and 9 plotted between the numbers 1-10: 123(4)56(7)8(9)10. In this way you can see how the numbers 432 (quantity) and 479 (versus coordinates) are integral to an equilateral triangle and, to the decimal system.

As for the number 479, I don't know of any ancient references to it but, there is an obvious correlation to the number 432 and, to the number 10. Now as for the number 432, well that's another story. This is a favorite number of Joseph Campbell, which he says goes back a long ways and is used to describe the "rythm of the universe." In fact I'm sure if you were to look up Joseph Campbell and the number 432 on the Internet you could find numerous references. If not, there are plenty of references in his book: "The Masks of God - Oriental Mythology."

Oh, there's one thing about Joseph Campbell's name, "Joseph," which comes from Joseph, the patriarch and 11th son of Jacob (i.e., bible reference). And so brings up chapter 11 of the book of Revelation, which refers to the "Two Witnesses" and calls them the "Two Candelsticks." See how easily it is to construe the two candelsticks with the number 11? So it would seem somebody intentionally did this a long time ago? And, as everything in this universe has a left side and a right side (we all see and hear in stereo, and have a left brain and a right brain, and a left hand and a right hand, etc.), then the number eleven can really only suggest one thing, the coming together of the left and the right as "a whole" (completion).

Thus as I refer to my page at http://www.dionysus.org/x0801.html, the number 11 is the number of symmetry (balance) and, of validation (10 plus 01 = 11). Hey, isn't it curious how well this fits in with the symbol above? which, I like to refer to as "The Winepress." And of course the number 11 appears twice within the configuration, suggesting to me the number 22 (20 plus 02 = 22). Hmmm... I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that there are 22 chapters in the book of Revelation? Who knows? ...

All your observations only hold in the world of decimal numbers and metric measurements.

Convert all your results to binary, octal, hexadecimal or base₂₀ numbers.
Convert all your measurements to roman cubit, or chineese feet or radians.

Does any of this stuff make sence then

1 / a = 137 + 1 / 7 - 2 * 127 / 2377 = 137.03599976

which is exactly the value given by NIST at http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?alphinv for eleven digit accuracy, though only 9 can be meaningful due to the error interval.

Or for an even simpler approximation:

1 / a = 137 + 9 / 250 = 137.036000

Which, is accurate to the millionth decimal place (9 digit accuracy), and even this extremely simple mixed number is within the error bounds given by NIST.

I decided to try it again on the quantity in question, cos(1/a), and obtained the following fraction:

(17 * 647) / (29 * 1031) = .367871835178

Which has 9 digit accuracy to the value

cos(1/a) = .367871835524

Looking for simpler fractions yields:

(3 * 7 * 47) / (2683) = .367871785315

Which is accurate to 6 digits (7 if you round).

Now I'm interseted in making an equation similar to some of yours, with 10^x to approximate the inverse fine structure constant:

100 * 10^((11 * 599) / (3 * 7 * 2293)) = 137.035999833

Which has 9 digit accuracy to the inverse fine structure constant.

This approximation, incidentally, can also be written as:

10^((5 * 13 * 1583) / (3 * 7 * 2293)) = 137.035999833

also as

10^((4/3) + (6/7) - (123/2293))
= 10^((4/3) + (6/7) - (3 * 41 / 2293))

And as a final challenge, I'm going to include your 82944 constant into an approximation. I'm going to approximate:

82944 * a^2 = 4.41688030577

A simple approximation is

(2 * 27 * 31) / 379 = 4.41688654354

A whopping 6 digit agreement for a very simple fraction. Rearranging the equation gives:

sqrt((82944 * 379) / (2 * 27 * 31)) = 137.035902995

For 6 digits of accuracy!

Given how easy it is to come up with so many good approximations with fairly simple equations, do you see why I'm not convinved by your approximations?

Hurkyl

Would you settle for a base 12 observation? Now I do do this thing with the book of Revelation, where I substitute a chapter for a month and a verse for a day. But, instead of 12 months, I look at it in terms of 24 months, just as there are 24 hours in a day (with two 12 hour cycles). And here, since there are only 22 chapters in the book of Revelation, the whole thing would theoretically end in the "second October." Yet I use the 23rd month, November (i.e., 11:00 O'clock pm in accord with the number 11 above) as a month of reflection, and then really only observe what occurs between December and the following October (chapters 12-22).

And here the number 12 signifies an "external structure," such as a church which, according to my sources, is what Revelation 12 represents: The Advent of the New Church. Prior to that you have the testimony of the Two Witnesses in chapter 11, which lays the groundwork or, foundation for the New Church (which is why chapters 1-11 are somewhat "hidden" from view and I don't normally address them). Whereas the Advent of the New Church occurs in the 43rd month following the 42 months of testimony by the Two Witnesses.

In lieu of this I would like to throw out a couple of dates. For instance December 7th which, happens to be Pearl Harbor Day. And what does it say in chapter 12, verse 7? "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought; and the dragon fought and his angels." What do you think about the "Imperialistic Dragon of Japan?"

Of course in the west we have our own version of dragon, and so brings up the dragon and his two successors (the beast out of the sea and the false prophet) in chapter 13. And in chapter 13, verse 18 it says: "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred three score and six (666)." While it just so happens that January 18th is "typically" the day we observe Martin Luther King's birthday. And, while it's not my intent to badmouth Martin Luther King Jr., it does allude to his predecessor Martin Luther of the Reformation which, according to my sources, is what the dragon, the beast out of the sea and the false prophet is all about.

Another date to consider is April 18th, and in Revelation 16, verse 18 it says: "And there were voices, and thunders, and lightning; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great." Bring to mind any "great earthquakes?" How about the great 1906 earthquake in San Fransisco which, happened to occur on April 18?

All of which brings up what's happening currently - since yesterday, February 17th, the day I got a hit on my website regarding all this mumbo jumbo stuff with numbers. It's funny because I had been working with this chapter in the back of my mind, but not really expecting anything to happen? I don't know, is it just a coincidence? This is really the only thing that peaked my curiosity, otherwise I probably wouldn't have responded. And hence the last four verses in Revelation 14 (17-20).

17 "And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. (February 17th).

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. (February 18th).

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. (February 19th).

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horses bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs." (February 20th).

Oh yes, I should also mention I developed the "Winepress" symbol above in accord with the number 479 long before this incident yesterday on February 17th. And, that I had these dates in mind specifically (February 17-20), when developing it. Do you still think it's hogwash? ...

19 "And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God." (February 19th).

If you would like to understand the relationship between the numbers 1 and 4, in accord with the masculine intellect (1) and the feminine will (4), where the masuculine approaches the feminine in guise of the woman's father (3), and the feminine approaches the masculine in guise of the man's mother (2), where the man himself is represented by the relationship between his father (1) and mother (2), and the woman herself is represented by the relationship between her mother (4) and father (3), please visit my page at http://www.dionysus.org/x0405.html - the Israelite Church (43). Which is all done in accord with Israel (Jacob) who had 12 sons and 4 wives.

Perhaps now you can see how the numbers 12 and 43 relate to the Advent of the New Church above?

Hence it is the numbers 432 and 123 become readily apparrent, as the woman ("a woman clothed with the sun" - in Revelation 12:1) decends, from 4 to 3 to 2 (4-32), and the man "ascends," from 1 to 2 to 3 (1-23), as portrayed by the two correspondences 32 and 23 which, when added (320 + 023) equals 343 or, is 7 x 7 x 7. Which thus brings up the base fourteen system, where the numbers 32 and 23 are "harmonically" the same as 4 and 9 or 49 which, is 7 x 7. So you can see how this all correlates with the numbers 49, 479 and 432, Okay?

Well, I don't wish to "press" things any further, except to say that it all begins with an idea. Thank You Very Much!

There is one thing I would like to add though, the link to my page at - http://www.dionysus.org/x0009.html - which speaks about the cover design of my book, and the relationship between colors, numbers and white light (with specific reference given to the numbers 12 and 37). I thought you might appreciate this as you referred to it in your topic.

Thanks