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Will
Infrared Wave
USA
302 Posts |
 Posted - 02/22/2003 : 09:00:00
I think the integrity of a debate moderator is compromised when he is the one you are debating against. While I do commend Zero for the ammount of time and effort he volunteers for these forums I beleive it is apparent that his opinion and participation level is too high for him to work properly to be a moderator in the political section. Might I suggest to Zero to ask for a prospective mentor or or current mentor to replace as the political forum mod. As of now I beleive that particular section has lost its credibility.
- just a thought to try and improve PF
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Kerrie
PF Mentor
USA
2483 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2003 : 15:12:56
honestly will, i wouldn't recommend you for the job...went down the hill, the other day
my soul got happy and stayed all day ~Moby
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Zero
PF Mentor
USA
5996 Posts |
Posted - 02/22/2003 : 15:43:52
Will, I've heard about you, I've had to delete your posts because you have a hard time following rules. I think I run the place just fine. You are just mad because you aren't allowed to insult people who you don't agree with. Every so often, a 'conservative' will complain about being mistreated...I even started a thread about the 'poor Republicans', because many of you make the assumption that if you don't get your way 100% of the time, that counts as discrimination.
Loss of credibility? Because it isn't dominated by right-wing propaganda? Or because I don't allow you to call people names?
Kerrie's had trouble with you, I've had trouble with you....I'm thinking that the trouble is with you.
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Edited by - Zero on 02/22/2003 15:48:24
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Will
Infrared Wave
USA
302 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 04:35:41
Thanks Kerrie I dont like you either. See Zero this is what Im talking about. Political debates have moderators who are supposed to be neutral and help the debate flourish. During debates on a debate team per se they will have a moderator to make sure everything goes smoothly. I was pointing out that the political forums integrity has been comprimised because the biggest advocate of one of the sides, happens to be the debate moderator. From what Ive seen its not only me who has noticed this. If you truely are interested about that forums integrity I don't see any reason why you would seem unwilling to hand off or switch mods with someone else for that section. It seems some crave "powerful" positions no matter how small or insignifigant they may be. I honestly would recomend someone more detached from the Political Section so that you could argue away without having to worry about losing your integrity as a mod.
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Kat
Infrared Wave
USA
402 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 12:33:52
I don't think it is acceptable to single someone out like this. It's insulting and demeaning. In my opinion a far better way to approach this issue would have been to PM Greg and/or Zero.
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Another God
X-Ray Wave
Australia
1683 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 13:32:27
I suggest you get a non-american to moderate the POlitical Forum, simply because that way they wouldn't have any idea what 'Replican' etc actually means. (well, I don't anyway) and as such they could moderate completely based on methods of argument and not on ideals!Prove me wrong, I might learn something.
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MSI
Visible Light Wave
Israel
646 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 18:15:24
i think ZERO is very good for politics ....
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Greg Bernhardt
Radio Wave
USA
2001 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2003 : 18:35:15
quote:
I suggest you get a non-american to moderate the POlitical Forum, simply because that way they wouldn't have any idea what 'Replican' etc actually means.
I'm sure plenty of non-americans know what a republican is. It's not like it's an american secret. Anyway, the forums is not just for american politics.admin@physicsforums.com
http://www.physicspost.com
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Will
Infrared Wave
USA
302 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2003 : 02:53:47
quote:
Originally posted by Kat:
I don't think it is acceptable to single someone out like this. It's insulting and demeaning. In my opinion a far better way to approach this issue would have been to PM Greg and/or Zero.
This has nothing to do with Zero personally, and I beleive I left out any remarks about competency and the like. This is simply a post about how a debate forum would best function. You're thinking about it the wrong way. Im pointing out the need for a certain degree of detatchment that a debate moderator should exibit. IE. Would it hurt the functionality of the Philosophy section if say Alexander or Lifegazer were the mods? Im not personally attacking Lg or Alex, im pointing out it would be a lil screwy if the mod was one of the largest advocates of a certain stance. I beleive this is even more so for the political section where less emphasis is placed less on logic and more on political jargon. Ironically I think LG or Alex might be well suited for being mods of the Politics section because of their appeared detatchment.
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voyeur
Visible Light Wave
USA
577 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2003 : 05:37:44
Well zero, you are a little thin skinned. You deleted something from my post because it was 'insulting' and I know I didn't call anybody names and I don't remember writing anything insulting in the first couple sentences. In fact, I copied the post from another topic and edited it so as to be non-inflammatory. What exactly was it I said that was insulting? Not to say your other edits weren't correct.
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Kerrie
PF Mentor
USA
2483 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2003 : 15:06:46
i can assure those of you who critisize us moderators are least likely to understand our situation...as a moderator, you agree to sort through garbage posted (which can be a pain and frustrating when it never ends), you take the responsibility of your forum, and you have to deal with people who constantly harass you because they don't like the way you run the forum and rarely hear of what you do right...members here have the freedom to complain about what they don't like, however, bottom line is, if a member doesn't like the way a moderator runs his or her forum, that member also has the freedom to post elsewhere...went down the hill, the other day
my soul got happy and stayed all day ~Moby
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Zero
PF Mentor
USA
5996 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2003 : 16:45:28
Look, we don't get paid for this. Would you read and read, and not want to participate?Anyhoo, if you look, I completely disagree with almost everything Kat has posted, but none of it has been deleted, because none of it is rude, violent, or insulting. Calling everyone who doesn't agree with your views 'socialist', 'communist' and 'terrorist sympathiser' is going to get your stuff edited or deleted, and that would be true whether I posted or not. Same goes for things I agree with, if stated in ways that are against the rules of the board. ******************************
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Pauly Man
Infrared Wave
Australia
454 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2003 : 02:57:49
I have to say I agree with Kat, in that this should have been handled privately and not publicly. The PM function is there for a reason.
www.geocities.com/paulmaths/index.html
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Zero
PF Mentor
USA
5996 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2003 : 06:34:50
quote:
Originally posted by Pauly Man:
I have to say I agree with Kat, in that this should have been handled privately and not publicly. The PM function is there for a reason.
www.geocities.com/paulmaths/index.html
Too late now...even though one of the major 'censorship' was because of this exact thing: making personal comments in a thread, instead of staying on-topic. You can disagree with a position, but you don't have to call the other people idiots or liars for not agreeing with you. ******************************
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