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zeryphex
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Posted - 02/26/2003 :  06:27:38  Show Profile Send a private Message
Yet another problem.

word-for-word problem:
Block B weighs 712 N. The coefficient of static friction between block B and the table is 0.25. Find the maximum weight of block A for which block B will remain at rest.

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So...

block B: Fnet = Ftension - fs

...and...

block A: Fnet = Ftension - mg

How do I incorporate the junction and the given angle? Is the diagonal string pulling (in the positive direction) with force of mgsin? Do I have to break-up the diagonal string into x and y components? What am I missing?



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Tom
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Posted - 02/26/2003 :  22:02:02  Show Profile  Send a private Message  Visit Tom's Homepage
OK, first thing you need to note is that there is not one tension in the problem, but 3 (because there are 3 strings).

You can write down a free body diagram for:

1. Block A
2. Block B
3. The junction of the 3 strings.

Call the tension in the horizontal string T1, the tension in the vertical string T2, and the tension in the diagonal string T3.

Now for applying Newton's second law.

You got block A right, except I would say T2 instead of Ftension, simply because you don't want to use the same variable for two different tensions.

Block B is also OK, except I would say T1 instead of Ftension, because that is not the same tension as is acting on block B.

Now for the junction. You have forces in both the x and y directions, so you have to decompose the forces by trigonometry. You already indicated that you know how to do this. Try to write down the equations, and post them here. I'll help you through the rough spots.



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Edited by - Tom on 02/26/2003 22:11:35
zeryphex
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Posted - 02/27/2003 :  08:58:55  Show Profile  Send a private Message
Ugh...sorry for late response. I discovered this site late in the week I was assigned the week's homework so haven't had enough time to post all my questions. I'll have to make do with what you've helped me with thus far and work it out on my own since it's due today. Thanks much for your help.



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