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gamemania1986
Radio Wave
Thailand
56 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 14:38:05
Guys, I need a calculator for SAT II tests (Math I, Math II, and Physics). Should I choose CASIO Algebra FX 2.0 Plus or CASIO CFX 9950 GB Plus? Both are priced the same, sadly I don't really know the differences. Can anyone shed me some light? Any website which reviews calculators?Thanks a lot! PS: I'm a calculus boy. Which one is better for calculus related stuffs?
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ObsessiveMathsFreak
Infrared Wave
Burkina Faso (Upper Volta)
282 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 16:14:51
Forget Casio, I plug...SHARP ALLLLLL the way! "May the maths be with you"
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alis
Radio Wave
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 16:38:10
I don't suppose they'd let you bring in a laptop with Maple on it, would they? :)--- The good Christian should beware of mathematicians and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell. -St Augustine
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STAii
X-Ray Wave
 
Jordan
1376 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 17:24:07
Calculators differ in the ratio of error, and in features. Did u try to see www.Casio.com ? i don't think there will be a site that will give you more info than this one  EDIT: I made the search, and couldn't find GFX9950 , but i found GFX9850. Here is the link for the first one and the second one "Don't try to teach colors to a blind person"
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Edited by - STAii on 03/01/2003 08:11:01
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Eyesee
Radio Wave
Bosnia and Herzegovina
15 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2003 : 21:06:00
quote: Originally posted by gamemania1986: Guys, I need a calculator for SAT II tests (Math I, Math II, and Physics). Should I choose CASIO Algebra FX 2.0 Plus or CASIO CFX 9950 GB Plus? Both are priced the same, sadly I don't really know the differences. Can anyone shed me some light? Any website which reviews calculators?Thanks a lot! PS: I'm a calculus boy. Which one is better for calculus related stuffs?
If you are going into an engineering or math field, you should get a programmable calculator like the Ti-89.
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climbhi
Infrared Wave
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2003 : 00:25:25
Go for the HP 49g; straight up the best calculator around!"Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." --Mark Twain
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Nebula
Visible Light Wave

USA
549 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2003 : 14:18:39
My personal recommendation: Ti-89 -It is compact and versatile. It has all the features of the Ti-92 plus and the Voyage 200 with the exception of the QWERTY keyboard. A very good choice if you plan on pursing higher levels of mathematics such as Calculus, Differential Equation and beyond.Now for you home PC or a laptop. Try Maple 8. This is simply the most user-friendly mathematical software package with tons of functions and capabilities. It is a very useful tool in Multivariable Calculus and just about anything else. Its capabilities are nearly endless. "I have to believe in a world outside my own mind. I have to believe that my actions still have meaning, even if I don't remember them. I have to believe that when my eyes are closed, the world is still there."-Leonard Shelby
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climbhi
Infrared Wave
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2003 : 22:08:52
quote: Originally posted by Nebula: My personal recommendation: Ti-89 -It is compact and versatile. It has all the features of the Ti-92 plus and the Voyage 200 with the exception of the QWERTY keyboard. A very good choice if you plan on pursing higher levels of mathematics such as Calculus, Differential Equation and beyond.Now for you home PC or a laptop. Try Maple 8. This is simply the most user-friendly mathematical software package with tons of functions and capabilities. It is a very useful tool in Multivariable Calculus and just about anything else. Its capabilities are nearly endless. "I have to believe in a world outside my own mind. I have to believe that my actions still have meaning, even if I don't remember them. I have to believe that when my eyes are closed, the world is still there."-Leonard Shelby
The HP I recomended is much more powerful then the TI89. It's integration and differentiation powers are much more powerful, as with the differential equations solver (I'm not even sure the TI has this) It's loaded with stats functions, as well as linear algebra and many other features. It's solvers are much much more versatile then TI's and can do most things symbolically (I think the TI only does it numerically) also perhaps the best part of the calculator is the equation writer. It allows you to enter things exactly as they appear in a textbook rather then suffering through sorting out your billion parentheses. Also it can factor, expand, and apply trigonometric and exp. and logarathmic identities to these functions and subfunctions within it. I first didn't think that this would be all that great, however I find its the feature I use the most! It can operate in both algebraic entry mode (the same as TI) or the much more effecient reverse polish notation (RPN) which eliminates need for parantheses and saves a lot of key strokes. Really if you want a good calculator don't get sucked into TI like everyone else, pitch out the extra twenty bucks and get a great calculator with the HP! "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." --Mark Twain
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alis
Radio Wave
USA
88 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2003 : 05:07:58
Don't get sucked into the cult of RPN! You should get Maple, though, it is infinitely excellent, and you can write all sorts of useful shortcuts into it as you go along.--- The good Christian should beware of mathematicians and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and confine man in the bonds of Hell. -St Augustine
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climbhi
Infrared Wave
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2003 : 05:27:39
Yeah but maple doesn't come on calculators, though it would be nice if it did. Anyway you don't have to get sucked into the RPN cult if you go with an HP 49g, it has an option to let you enter commands in algebraic mode just like the TI, but be forwarned, once you've tasted of the goods of RPN you probably won't want to return to that nightmare of parantheses and mush of algebraic notation."Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." --Mark Twain
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Integral
PF Mentor
  
USA
2665 Posts |
Posted - 03/01/2003 : 07:42:56
RPN is for professonials, ametures need not apply.HP all the way! (Unless we are talking PCs!) __________________________ "A Physicist is an atom's way of learning about atoms" G. Wald
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climbhi
Infrared Wave
USA
361 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2003 : 03:56:38
quote: Originally posted by Integral: RPN is for professonials, ametures need not apply.HP all the way! (Unless we are talking PCs!) __________________________ "A Physicist is an atom's way of learning about atoms" G. Wald
Exactly! Especially the part about the PC's. Don't ever think about a pavillion, though the models above the pavillions are very good machines. I have an hp vectra from the late 80's that probably out performs some of the crappy new machines out there just becuase its a burly workhorse that's slow but relentless and consistent! I'm serious its a wonderful computer, and the even better part is you could drop it from your roof and still use it just fine afterwards (gotta love 80's electronics)! Long story short. Pavillions suck, but higher models like vectra and kayak etc... are really good machines. Oh, and the calculators are unbeatable. "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." --Mark Twain
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BoulderHead
Gamma Wave
  
Canada
2364 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2003 : 04:42:43
Ah, the choice for engineers...HP48's are my pick. You can get them with an expansion slot for adding more memory and/or programs though they have plenty of built-in equations too. You can enter equations so they appear like those in your text books, then send them out to the 'stack' and the parenthesis will be inserted into all the right places. They can be a tad slow on graphing I’ve found, but lest we forget; these beasts were years ahead of the competition. If you are more into mathematics you might prefer the 49 series (though they lack the built in equations), but no matter how you slice it RPN is awesome and like Integral said;HP all the way baby!!! Fear not the RPN grasshopper, mastering the Stack is the beginning of wisdom. [edit] Here's a plug for a great site with lots of downloadable programs for your HP;
http://www.hpcalc.org/ Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the liberal, who wishes to replace them with others. -- Ambrose Bierce
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Edited by - BoulderHead on 03/04/2003 04:46:14
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gamemania1986
Radio Wave
Thailand
56 Posts |
Posted - 03/04/2003 : 12:25:02
There no HP stuffs here (thailand), only Casio and some TIs. I only found TI 89, and it's 2x more expensive than Algebra FX 2.0 + or CFX 9950 GB +, so I didn't choose TI 89.After some of searching I found that many university disallow Algebra FX 2.0 + because of its CAS, so decided to buy CFX 9950 GB +. It has some minor interface flaws, but it sure is a fun and great calculator! Anyone know a good site about calculators? Thanks a lot!
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Locutus
Radio Wave
USA
11 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 00:23:07
I'm a student too and i'd have to recommend the TI-89. Texas Instruments calculators can be bought on Amazon.com, which ships anywhere in the world. If the 89 is too much, the 83+ and the 86 are cheaper and just about as good. Note: Do NOT buy the 92 because not only is it the same programming as the 89, but it is prohibited on all SAT tests due to the fact that it has a keyboard (don't ask me why this is relevant). Bottom line, Texas Instruments have a great reputation and you can order it easily from amazon for $100 or so. It's hard to go wrong with that!
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thatoneguy
Micro Wave
USA
190 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 01:09:47
You might want to check what SAT allows you to use on the tests. I know that for the ACT, you can't use any calculator with a computer algebra system, which means you can't use a TI-89 or higher/equivalent.~TOG __________________________ I knew it! Not knew it in the sense that I had the slightest idea, but I knew there was something I didn't know!
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Locutus
Radio Wave
USA
11 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 02:10:54
Actually, TOG, you can.The College Board allows any calculator (actually encourages it) except those that have a QWERTY keyboard, those that plug into a wall, those that make funny noises, and those with touch or point and click interfaces (like a palm pilot). However, do to the fact that the HP calculators are powerful enough to solve functions, it would seem unethical to use one. TI calculators cannot solve for functions and are significantly less advanced, as others have noted, yet they may be more appropriate for tests such as the SATs.
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newton1
Radio Wave
Taiwan
10 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 16:54:53
i suggest you using casio fx-991MS.... now i using it...i think it can cover the maths calculate for your university studywill_yong
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MSI
Visible Light Wave

Israel
646 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 17:50:35
well i use fx7300G it is great for math ... and the best thing i find in it that it can drawthe dead man: "every day you discover how dumb you were the day before..." forums HERE
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Mulder
Radio Wave
United Kingdom
61 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 17:51:25
Surely Maths/Physics exams should be a test of your ability, not one of your calculator or your ability to program it. I've never sat an exam (yet) where I've needed a graphic calculator. I agree with the view though that Maple, out of exam/on laptop is very useful and a great program to use.If something's hard to do, then it's NOT worth doing. :] -Homer J Simpson-
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Edited by - Mulder on 03/06/2003 17:52:15
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njorl
Visible Light Wave

USA
725 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2003 : 18:01:07
For the SAT's, a simple four-banger should do.Njorl "Deceive everyone under 30!" -- um, Me
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