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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 00:14:22
Theory can be downloaded from http://members.triton.net/daveb
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Edited by - dr_strangelove on 11/02/2002 01:15:44
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drag
Visible Light Wave

USA
849 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 15:29:29
Greetings !Welcome to the PFs ! I do not know how many requests you got so far but I assume that it's only a few. The reason is probably because people here do not yet know you and it seems highly suspicious when someone says he's got it all figured out. So, as intriguing as your suggestion is, it mostly looks like a waste of online time for most people, no offense. Since you are prepared to share parts of your insights with people already, I advise you to post at least some basic stuff, not enough to reveal everything, but at least to allow people to appreciate whether they are talking to an expert physict or a complete crackpot, again - no offense. I'm sure that if the first becomes abvious - everyone will want a copy ! Live long and prosper.
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Edited by - drag on 10/25/2002 15:35:19
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 16:57:17
I understand your concern. Perhaps a brief introduction and some background of of theory will help.I graduated at the top of my class from MSU with a degree in chemical physics. I then went on to graduate school at IU where I took several graduate level courses in physics. It has been several years since I have been involved in physics. To think out of the box sometimes you have to get out of the box. My theory actually doesn't contain many new assumptions (just 2). Most of it is just different but equally correct formulizations of present theories. It does nicely unify many concepts and I can actually get Newton's Law of gravity out of it. The really neat thing is that it is simple. A high school calculus student could understand it. This thing is either a great theory or I have gone totally mad. I am prepared to axcept either.
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Hurkyl
Visible Light Wave

USA
723 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 18:28:57
Well, Newton's gravitation is the easy bit. :)The trick is to get something that can produce Einstein's General Relativity on the universal scale (at least the bits that have been confirmed), and can produce Quantum Chromodynamics on the small scale. But I guess if you have done that already you wouldn't be asking for help from others! I'll take a look at it if my qualifications are suitable to you, but keep in mind my skepticism is a good match for my intellectual curiousity. :)
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drag
Visible Light Wave

USA
849 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 18:39:29
Greetings !Hey, what coincidence my skills don't go beyond basic calculus either. I still doubt it's enough though. I've an idea - why don't you guys post general progress updates here. At least, say this will work/this won't work. Live long and prosper.
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FZ
Gamma Wave
  
United Kingdom
2222 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 18:42:30
Errr... can you at least post a summary here? When someone says its simple, alarm bells begin to ring.... Maybe if you simplify it you get 0=0... or even worse, 0 = 1... Can this theory offer any predictions that can be proven?------------- C:\DOS\ C:\DOS\RUN\ RUN\DOS\RUN
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 18:47:27
You are thinking in the box, Hurky.I don't use general relativity or any portion of it. General relativity would have to be considered an approximation theory in my much simpler explanation of gravity. As for quantum effects, I have done little with it as of yet, but my theory clearly predicts the cyclic nature of things on a small scale. I am working on these other aspects but could use help.
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Hurkyl
Visible Light Wave

USA
723 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 19:08:58
GR matches experimental data.Valid theories match experimental data. Therefore valid theories must match GR, at least in the circumstances that GR has been confirmed. :D I didn't mean to imply your theory has to have the same form as GR... but it does have to agree with the experimental data that supports GR.
Also, it is likely that any valid theory would approximate GR as a limiting case (just like Special relativity approximates classical mechanics when velocities are sufficiently small). This, of course, isn't a requirement of a valid theory, it only needs to agree with data. Hurkyl
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 19:19:23
I agree Hurky. You are absolutely correct. I would just remind you of the many times general relativitistic calculations have been changed to fit observation. The most recent is the appearance of anti-gravity. At least one physicist has modified it to explain an appearant observation, while other say thet theory does not allow anti-gravity. Which description survives depends on experiment. Einstein himself didn't think it predicted black holes.
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Jim Osborn
Radio Wave
USA
95 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 21:04:07
quote: Originally posted by dr_strangelove: I have developed a theory that seemss to be unifing things faster than I can handle on my own.
Hello Dr. S. By "unifying", are you referring to the "unified force field" that A.E. spent his final years in fruitless endeavor? Sinderely, Jim Osborn
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 21:28:26
To Jim,No. It has nothing to do with a unified force field. The things it brings togetner so far are: Relativistic quantum mechanics, gravity, the hubble equation, the black holes at the center of galaxies, and the intrinsic spin angular momentum of particles. All theses things are manifestations of the same theory, which by the way is simple. I'm expect more things to be unified soon.
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FZ
Gamma Wave
  
United Kingdom
2222 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 21:34:15
Also, I don't see why quantum effects should be cyclic. In fact, quantum theory is against the inifinte scalability of physics. Tell me this, can you calculate Planck's constant from your theory? Can you tell me how many dimensions there are? Can you tell me what I will find if I use telescopes to measure the polarisation of light from the early universe. ie, does your theory make anything that is remotely testable? So far, so pie in the sky stuff... einstein predicted that the path of light will be affected by gravity due to warping spacetime. This has been tested and shown to be true. It doesn't matter what he personally thought - it is easy to extrapolate from this effect the existence of black holes... The basic theory of realtivity has not been modified. It has been expanded but the principles are still there, proved right again and again. Most modern theories have a major part in their derivation from Relativity. I would treat any theory saying that they replace relativity with grave doubt... It appears you don't give any details at all with which to review your ideas like you want. Already this is unscientific. Your theory will never be accepted with a good number of peer review, which you refuse to allow...------------- C:\DOS\ C:\DOS\RUN\ RUN\DOS\RUN
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/25/2002 : 22:03:36
To FZ,I'm not dure if I can calculate planks constant but no one else can either. I can show that it is related to the gravitational constant, which is a new concept. My theory makes time and space properties of objects not some assumed void so I really don't deal in dimensions. My theory does clearly explain the Hubble equation. I am sorry, but general relativity is simply not needed to explain gravity. My theoryu predicts black holes at the center of galaxies. General relativity just predicts tthem. thanks for all the constructive critisim
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Michael F. Dmitriyev
Infrared Wave
Uzbekistan
233 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2002 : 12:09:11
I seem that mystery with which is presented "new theory of dr_strangelove " has more idle time explanation. Simply can be an obvious direct coincidence with some available on forum subjects. Sooner with that which not belongs to constant inhabitant of the forum which rolls officially confirmed subjects. Sooner with idea pertaining to certain eccentric, who do not acknowledge no box. Sooner this eccentric not only do not acknowledge above mentionned inhabitants of the forum but they even affords the insults in his address. I have a presentiment that this eccentric can turn out to be me. Coincidences can be with my initial topics : 1) "Mass straines but does not curves space" 09/02/2002 2) "The string of the strain & the plane of the strain" 09/06/2002 etc In this situations I shall pleased to see proof that I mistaken. If no...then I wait your offers how we'll dichotomize money, Mr. dr_strangelove.Best regards.
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Heumpje
Micro Wave
Netherlands
154 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2002 : 13:07:13
Hi, I recieved a copy of your theory. You asked for comments, here they are: On page one you give an alternative explanation of time dilation. This involves the mass of the clock. My comment/question: WTF does the mass of the clock has to do with the speed at which it is running? This is the first of a couple of things which I think are not correct. Furthermore: you introduce a lot of variables without explaining what they are, therefore it becomes quite incomprehensible. I'm not going to point out where you made mistakes. It would have been easier when you number your equations You claim to merge quantum Mechanics with classical. First of all: classical mechanics =quantum mechanics with hbar->0 So that in fact they are already merged. Second: i don't see any QM. You simply state that QM is not necessary to describe the CLASSICAL world (a fact which is known for more than 60 years now) By classical world I mean the world on length scales of order one millimeter and largerSo far my comments (else i might break my pledge of secrecy). If you want a complete review of your article with comments we might do that by mail Heumpje
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Edited by - Heumpje on 10/28/2002 13:09:18
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2002 : 20:59:54
When I talk about a clock, I am talking about a time rate that I believe is related to an objects total energy. I used clocks and preset their rates just to formulate the idea. It is completely consistent with special relativity in that one could convert the time back to a inertial refference frame.I know this may seem radical, but the initial idea of time running at different rates was radical. At any rate I have made the theory availabe to anyone. Please feel free to be as critical as you can. To view go to+: http://members.triton.net/daveb/ It is in microsoft word format. I wrote it with the XP version.
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Heumpje
Micro Wave
Netherlands
154 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2002 : 08:46:05
That is a strange idea indeed. It would mean that according to your theory two clocks, of different mass, bound together moving at some velocity have different time rates. This doesn't sound physical nor is it in agreement with SR. Two different clocks moving at the same speed should measure the same amount of time. If not, our economy would collapse because of your theory since it is from then on impossible to make appointments. Everybody would always be late/early.Heumpje
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2002 : 12:44:41
Clcoks are built and set to run at the same rates. What I am proposing is a time that is intrinsic to an object as a result of the total energy of the object. I used the clock example a an illustration only. "Our time" is an agreeded upon time. We build our clocks and set their time rates accordingly. In fact if we lived in a world where people traveled very fast then there would indeed be problems under the present interpertation of special relativity, and our economy very well may colaspe unless everyone was adept at using lorentz transforms. My method would provide a simpler way of calculating times in a high speed world. I am posting answeres to frequently asked questions on my web site. http://members.triton.net/daveb/
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Heumpje
Micro Wave
Netherlands
154 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2002 : 14:11:50
I've read the answer on your site. I see where you go wrong now. My next question would have been: Why do you assume that there is a relation between time and energy? All these transformations are independent of the object itself. What SR says is that when you make a lorentz transformation to another REFERENCE SYSTEM, the elapsed time changes. This has nothing to do with energy. What SR tells you is that the elapsed time is different for observers moving at different speeds. There is no such thing as universal time. Every object has it's eigentime. This is the time as measured by an observer when he is at rest relative to the object. You're definition, by the way, is not in agreement with GENERAL relativity. Deep in a gravitational well clocks run slower then without gravity.(this is an additional time dilation) Now imagine that you have your clock and throw it in to a well. The total energy of your clock will stay the same at first(gravitational energy will be reduced, kinetic energy will increase by the same amount). Then it hits the bottom and if we assume it doesn't break, the total energy of your clock is reduced by a lot. According to your def. it will run faster. It should however start running slower "More is different" - P.W Anderson
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dr_strangelove
Radio Wave
USA
32 Posts |
Posted - 10/30/2002 : 16:50:49
First let me say that if my theroy is correct than there is no need for general relativity.Secondly, there is a relationship between time and energy even in special relativity as presently formulated. Fact: Any object moving relative to an observer will have it's total energy increased. Fact: Any object moving relative to an observer will have it's observed time rate decreased. That is a relationship. What is the cause and what is the effect? Here's a good example. Let's say we lived in high velocity world and everyone drove space ships. Carl stopped at a filling station and asked the attendant how to ge to Alpa Centauri. The attendant showed him the direction and told him that if he doubled his total energy, he would get there in 1 hour. Carl understood this to mean that if he quadrupled his energy he would get there in one half hour. If he was interested in the time it took as observed from a refference time, he would simply take the ratio of his rest energy to that of the refference object.
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Heumpje
Micro Wave
Netherlands
154 Posts |
Posted - 10/31/2002 : 10:37:31
Sorry, I don't see the point in discussing this further..."More is different" - P.W Anderson
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